Note: This was a post I wrote originally on my biblical "Growing in Grace and Knowledge" blog, written shortly after my open apostasy and rejection of the bible as God's word.
Fear. It's the tactic of any good dictator. The belief is that
people cannot rule themselves, they're inherently bad, and so it's the
duty of some individual to wield authority over the masses in a
monarchical arrangement. But who is so much better than any of the rest
of us to think he is fit to rule?
I've always been of a
republic mindset myself. I believe in a free society. I believe that
when people work together using reason, there is freedom and happiness.
The helpless are helped, the unrelenting wicked are punished, and the
people use the better part of their time to enjoy life with their fellow
earthlings and work creatively to make the planet a better place.
And it really does
work. When people are free to search truth and to live their lives
unrestricted, so long as they're not harming other persons or their
properties, people live together in relative harmony. It is in an
environment like this that things like slavery are abolished.
But
there are, unfortunately, people out there who think they need to
rule. They've got to come up with a plan to deceive people to follow
them, though. Oftentimes they bring God or gods into the equation or
claim to be a god themselves.
Currently I think there likely is
a God. (Note: I believe now there is likely no god, but I did when I first wrote this post on my old biblical blog.) But wow, there are all sorts of ways we, as people, have boxed
him up and labeled him. And then we're all deluded as children, just as
those before us were deluded as children, to believe in him this way or that way, whatever way your particular culture teaches it, and then,
if that wasn't enough, it's got to be paired up with a teaching that
it's heresy to prove it out for yourself, to your own satisfaction.
That means Muslims are forbidden to read the bible, Christians are
forbidden to read the Qu'ran, and so on. And all such peoples think
they are right. They know they're right. How? Why, because
their holy book says so, that's why! And how can it be wrong? So then
there's never and peace, because rather than using our Truth and Love
Guide (and I don't mean some book that you've got to place blind faith
in, since it was written by those who say they saw it and heard it) that resides in us, we rather listen to the little fear leech that tags along.
I've heard from two dear friends today, and fear was brought up in both conversations.
One
friend is doing the noble thing by "proving all things," seeing whether
what I've said holds any weight. She, like I, has had questions that
she's pushed back in her mind throughout the years, good questions that
any sane and rational person ought to have. She confided in me that she
is not ready to say anything to anyone, yet, and she's still
searching. Well, that's wise. I certainly didn't make my
decision overnight. No, I had to give my kids a lot of game time and
such so that I could read, read, read, and meditate, investigate. Day
after day, and week after week. And then add that to all the wise
questions that I've had filed away in my mind over the years. She may
not ever tell some people, she said, because of judgement. I can't say I
blame her at all. She also said, "I am realizing more and more about
the fear religion puts into us. It's mind boggling."
Yep. I still have the fear leech saying, "What if you're wrong?" It's because I've been programmed for soooo long. But fear should never dominate over truth.
That
brings me to the conversation I had with my other friend. It seemed to
me that she may have been ignoring me, rejecting me, over a couple
things she disagreed with me about. I didn't like how she said
something, though now as I type this, perhaps even that was not taken
exactly the right way, because you can't get an accurate emotional read
with something written, which this was. I did reason that maybe she was just busy (there was evidence available to me there that she was). I voiced it several times to my Love. I really
was concerned. I kept telling myself maybe she just didn't have time,
and I should just wait longer. But the fear leech within me said it was
because she was pissed at me, and so what I should have done, I didn't do. What I should have done
is asked her directly (I did ask her something in an email about
busyness with something, but it was vague) whether she was ignoring me,
whether she was mad at me, or whether she was just busy.
The
reason I did not directly ask her which it was is because I failed to
work up the nerve to do so. I was afraid of the answer I'd get! I was afraid of what the truth might be!
So
what do I do, amidst my hurt yesterday, when out of the blue I'm
getting all this messaging from her on my iPhone, basically saying she
was upset (understandable) and that she couldn't be my friend until I
repented? I lashed out! In the blog post I made up. No, I didn't name
who it was. I haven't named anyone regarding anything. But I
nevertheless did what I told myself I would not do, which is accuse her
of the assumption I had that was rooted in fear. Of course, I
apologized. She then told me that I've always been good to be patient,
that she's forgotten things before or didn't have time to talk for
awhile, and she told me that I've never hated her for it. That's all
true. I've got a good track record of being very understanding when I
don't get a fast response. I'm plenty guilty of the same, and I don't
expect anything greater out of others. But this time, as weeks turned
into months, which is quite a long time, and judging by the last things
she'd said to me, I let the fear outweigh reason.
How many persons, I wonder, who reacted to me the way they did, truly read my entire blog post
before reacting? I'm personally struggling with how some could react
the way they did if they truly read it all. I think there's a good
chance some did not read it all. I know how the human mind works.
Sometimes when we start reading something that starts upsetting us, we
stop reading. We then assume that we know the whole story, we reach our
own conclusions quite quickly, and then go on the attack. Yeah. That's
right. You know how I know? Because I've been guilty of it before.
Because I know for a fact that others have done so before. So that's
why I think there's a good chance some didn't read it all thoroughly
before reacting. It's also important not to react right away after
reading something, but rather to go spend time meditating on it. These
are things that I've learned in my life, and I'm only 31.
That
is also why I think my one friend that I haven't heard from (actually
haven't checked my email today, yet) hasn't responded, yet, because she
tends to go meditate on things for awhile before deciding how to
respond. I've observed that about her over the years. And I value it.
She's not quick to get into debates, but I think she sorts wise
judgements in her head. She's a good example in many ways.
Now let's reason together...
It's
fearful to think that we might be wrong about something, isn't it? I
can now better understand in a compassionate way how it's difficult for
many to turn away from the big Christmas and Easter celebrations and
their Sunday churches, etc., because it really is a big thing. You get
judged, some may reject you, you've got emotional attachments to various
things, and so on. People are afraid of the truth. The fear leech
keeps them entangled.
How is it, though, for those who actually did
read the blog post, that they can search and find evidence that
Christmas and Easter and such originate in terrible pagan customs, yet
they won't investigate to see whether I'm telling the truth about the
biblical holidays being rooted in bloody and superstitious pagan
customs? How come it's ok that the bible contains holidays accepted
from Canaanite and Babylonian religions? How come it's ok that all the
tales are lies, because they're just stories borrowed from older
cultures? We know the Jews also, to this day, have the Babylonian
calendar months. They've got two new year days in a year, just like the
Babylonians. And they've got some of their holy days, as well as some
Canaanite ones.
We should ask why so many who are bible
scholars have left their faith once they see all the manuscripts.
That's an intelligent and wise question to ask. Just in the new
testament books, there are more inconsistencies and contradictions in
all the manuscripts than there are words in the new testament! And
they're not all minor, either.
The oldest gospel
manuscripts don't even teach that Jesus as divine. Some of us have
known for years that the last several verses of Mark aren't original and
that the words in one of the epistles of John were added to the KJV to
"prove" a trinity. There are, in fact, lots of other big problems. The
story of the woman caught in adultery is not original. It was added
much, much later. And on and on I could go. There are major
contradictions, not just things that can be reasoned as simple
differences in point of view (like how many women were at Jesus' tomb),
but much bigger things. The fact is that there were lots of different
"gospels" and such, and people just voted yea or nay at the Nicean
Council in the fourth century. Too bad they didn't pay close attention
to the four gospels, because they're terribly contradictory, moreso than
I realized before.
It's said that Luke authored Luke
and Acts. The gospel "according to" Luke claims Jesus ascended later
the same day he was resurrected. Read through it carefully. He met
with the disciples, walked with them to Bethany, and then he ascended.
In Acts it was forty days afterward.
Did he truly walk
to Emmaus and then meet the disciples later that day in Jerusalem in a
room, or did he rather meet them in Galilee? With the distance in mind,
it's impossible both happened. Which was it? Did he say they needed
to meet him in Jerusalem or Galilee? If one is true, the other is a
lie.
How come history doesn't tell of the mass
slaughter of babies by Herod? Was John the Baptist outside of the
region affected (perhaps so, I could argue this myself)? Rome didn't
send people to the towns of their fathers to register in a census, and
could you imagine the chaotic mess it would be if that is how it was
done? It wasn't how it was done; you can look it up. Also, it was a
Judean census, so it would not have affected a Galilean. And finally,
the census was taken in 6 CE, when Qurinius was governor of Syria,
whereas the other gospel account says it was during Herod the Great's
reign, but he died in 4 B.C. One of them is lying. I've searched to
try to see whether anyone can reconcile it, and no one can
satisfactorily do so.
If there is a God, and if there
is a judgement, will He judge us justly for using our reason and the
evidence we have and by our hearts, by how we react to certain things
(like the horrors in the old testament), or for having blind faith?
I
know there are some who love using circular arguments, which pretty
much states that the bible is true, because it says it's true, but I
have never bought into that. If there is nothing to test the
bible's truthhood, then it would be wise to default to not believing
it. I've always made arguments with evidence outside of the
bible to try to back the bible, and I've gotten a lot further with
people that way than those who use circular reasoning who talked to the
same people. Circular reasoning is not reasoning at all.
No
one should be afraid of searching. If searching brings you fear, what
is causing the fear? It's not healthy. Fear is not healthy. We've got
scientific evidence that it's not healthy for the mind, nor the body. Fear is what evil beings use to control people. Truth and love is what good beings use to free people. Look around and observe it yourself. Judge by the fruit you see. Meditate on it.
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Friday, May 29, 2015
The Tree Story is Impossible
So, I was just thinking to myself a bit ago about my own creation
story, how I would have done things if I was a creator of a world and
people.
I was thinking about helping people learn as they go in life, which is pretty much what we do for our own children now, no different; correcting gently as things go along, and then it hit me:
There is no way the tree of the knowledge of good and evil story can be true.
1. If no one had eaten from it, then life would go along, but eventually something would come up where there would be a conflict of some sort. Maybe it would be a disagreement on property ownership or one man lusting after another's wife and causing jealousy, or whatever. This is where people would know good and evil. No tree necessary.
2. If they were inherently perfect, where nobody would ever possibly enter a conflict of any sort, then they were never really created with free will, as free moral agents. And in that case, why would they have been created in flesh in the first place, if being spirit-bodied is supposedly the state of perfection?
Also, how would it be sin to realize—to "know"— there are bad consequences for some actions, which is what happens when we learn something is bad, as it's learned normally through our experience or observation of someone else's? It's called learning.
It's only foolish or wrong if, after learning, the behavior is repeatedly practiced. Again, it can't be a transgression to come to the knowledge of good and evil, because if it is:
1. Then the god of the bible (which is no creator of mine, I know now) is the ultimate transgressor, since he knows good and evil.
2. It was inevitable. We know how we come to know good and evil. It's when we learn from experience or from the experiences of others. If someone eats a fruit off a certain plant, and it kills him or her, we know not to eat that fruit! In other cases, if we've seen lots of people eat that fruit with no ill consequences, but then someone comes along, and he dies afterward, we know it was only evil for him and similar others (he was allergic). So we were forced into "sin," anyway, since it was inevitable to learn what good and evil is without the tree!
3. El, the Canaanite bible god, supposedly told Adam and Eve to not eat the fruit from that tree, but why put the damned tree there in the first place, if they're inevitably going to learn what's good and evil on their own, anyway?! And then he tempted them with it by telling them not to do it but leaving the serpent in the garden with them. Whatever that serpent was, whether a snake with legs or the Satan or whatever, it obviously knew things and talked, and it didn't even lie as people claim, because exactly what he said would happen did indeed happen. Their eyes were opened so that the knew good and evil like El. They also didn't die. As a matter of fact, they supposedly lived nearly a millennium! We don't live that long today. If it was the supposed "second death" that was referred to, then damn, that's sick. I love my babies waaaaay too much, and they've done a whole lot worse than simply eating something I told them not to (they've done that, too), and it's not in my heart to bring them back from the dead only to kill them again in flames. I'm too loving for that. And too just for that. Feel like I should throw that one in, too.
As a matter of fact, even though I wish they (and myself) were perfect, I would rather live eternally with my kids just the way they are (the good outweighs the bad by far) than to burn them to death.
So how's that? I challenge anyone to answer me on this.
Perhaps someone out there can show just how evil he or she is and show the true nature of his or her heart by trying to argue this, but I don't know who would want to do so.
My eyes are indeed open to knowing good and evil, and there's a lot more evil in the "old testament" books than good. So for my choosing the good, who wants me to burn?
I was thinking about helping people learn as they go in life, which is pretty much what we do for our own children now, no different; correcting gently as things go along, and then it hit me:
There is no way the tree of the knowledge of good and evil story can be true.
1. If no one had eaten from it, then life would go along, but eventually something would come up where there would be a conflict of some sort. Maybe it would be a disagreement on property ownership or one man lusting after another's wife and causing jealousy, or whatever. This is where people would know good and evil. No tree necessary.
2. If they were inherently perfect, where nobody would ever possibly enter a conflict of any sort, then they were never really created with free will, as free moral agents. And in that case, why would they have been created in flesh in the first place, if being spirit-bodied is supposedly the state of perfection?
Also, how would it be sin to realize—to "know"— there are bad consequences for some actions, which is what happens when we learn something is bad, as it's learned normally through our experience or observation of someone else's? It's called learning.
It's only foolish or wrong if, after learning, the behavior is repeatedly practiced. Again, it can't be a transgression to come to the knowledge of good and evil, because if it is:
1. Then the god of the bible (which is no creator of mine, I know now) is the ultimate transgressor, since he knows good and evil.
2. It was inevitable. We know how we come to know good and evil. It's when we learn from experience or from the experiences of others. If someone eats a fruit off a certain plant, and it kills him or her, we know not to eat that fruit! In other cases, if we've seen lots of people eat that fruit with no ill consequences, but then someone comes along, and he dies afterward, we know it was only evil for him and similar others (he was allergic). So we were forced into "sin," anyway, since it was inevitable to learn what good and evil is without the tree!
3. El, the Canaanite bible god, supposedly told Adam and Eve to not eat the fruit from that tree, but why put the damned tree there in the first place, if they're inevitably going to learn what's good and evil on their own, anyway?! And then he tempted them with it by telling them not to do it but leaving the serpent in the garden with them. Whatever that serpent was, whether a snake with legs or the Satan or whatever, it obviously knew things and talked, and it didn't even lie as people claim, because exactly what he said would happen did indeed happen. Their eyes were opened so that the knew good and evil like El. They also didn't die. As a matter of fact, they supposedly lived nearly a millennium! We don't live that long today. If it was the supposed "second death" that was referred to, then damn, that's sick. I love my babies waaaaay too much, and they've done a whole lot worse than simply eating something I told them not to (they've done that, too), and it's not in my heart to bring them back from the dead only to kill them again in flames. I'm too loving for that. And too just for that. Feel like I should throw that one in, too.
As a matter of fact, even though I wish they (and myself) were perfect, I would rather live eternally with my kids just the way they are (the good outweighs the bad by far) than to burn them to death.
So how's that? I challenge anyone to answer me on this.
Perhaps someone out there can show just how evil he or she is and show the true nature of his or her heart by trying to argue this, but I don't know who would want to do so.
My eyes are indeed open to knowing good and evil, and there's a lot more evil in the "old testament" books than good. So for my choosing the good, who wants me to burn?
My Exodus in Genesis: The Beginning of a Dogma-Free Life
Note: This was first posted on my "Growing in Grace and Knowledge" blog on July 19, 2014 as my public coming-out that I was an apostate and no longer believed the bible to be the word of God. For a very short time, I still believed there probably was a god, but I am now a practicing atheist, who like most atheists, claims to be agnostic as to whether there is a god or not but figures there is probably not.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer~
I'm learning and realizing so much that it's hard to know where to begin in my writing, but I think a good place to start is with the mention of something quoted in a sermon given by a friend of mine, over a year and a half ago, entitled, "What is Truth?"
He quoted someone, though I forget whom, saying something like, "Do we value truth above all? Above Christianity, above the bible?" Of course, my immediate in-though response was, "Absolutely!" Because that's true. I do desire truth above all things, even love (which comes second), because there can be "love" in the absence of truth.
At that time, however, I still believed the bible was true. I knew it had some contradictions and some translational errors, but whereas I use my reason and logic pretty well in most areas of my life, I was letting some sort of attachment squash reason in regards to many things within the bible. I do think that there are good lessons and some wise sayings in the bible, but I think the stories therein and of "Jesus" being the saving son of God, etc. are a big lie. There are lots of other books with some good teachings, too, also with some lies. I've read other books, though, that are overall much better than the bible when it comes to teaching morals.
There are so many places I can start with this continuance, which will begin to explain how I arrived at this, but I will start with an an incident that occurred just a few weeks prior to this writing.
One to three nights prior to the day, my Love and I were once again discussing things with one another, when he questioned what it says in the book of Matthew about Jesus being named so and then claiming it was because it was prophesied he was to be named Immanuel. I replied that I'd always thought it was just another name for him, like a middle name. He kept objecting, saying that the text said he was to be called Jesus based on the prophecy that said he was to be called Immanuel.
Now to the day soon following that night: The kids and I went outside, while my Love was away at a job. I had the whole Jesus-Immanuel thing on my mind, so I grabbed a bible on my way out and proceeded to read the part in Matthew, then flipped back to Isaiah 7 to read. I frowned. Not only are the names Jesus and Immanuel different, with different meanings, but Isaiah was talking about someone entirely different! He wasn't prophesying about any future-coming Messiah at all! (And how did that escape my notice before?? Blindness…)
I thought maybe if I ran back inside and grabbed the book a friend of mine wrote on the prophets, I'd come to an understanding. So I did just that. I got back to my chair outside and flipped through the pages until I got to the commentary on Isaiah 7. He said verse 14, the "Immanuel" verse was prophesying the Messiah. Then I read on, and he started talking about about a prophetess' son. What?!
So I read the whole thing before that, in my bible, and after it again, on into Isaiah 8. The whole thing is talking about a sign to Ahaz concerning Syria, Ephraim, and Samaria and what would happen within an allotted time. The sign was the maiden conceiving and bearing a son, and all that Isaiah said would happen would do so before the child was old enough to know good from evil. So it has nothing to do with an anointed one to come hundreds of years afterward. Not a very good sign to Ahaz that would be. (Oh, and by the way, that child's name turned out not to be Immanuel, either.) How in the world can a person take a snippet of a verse out of context and apply it to be a foretelling of a son of a god? It's the same way that some people, after the twin towers of the World Trade Center came down in 2001, took a snippet from Nostradamus' prophecy about twins being destroyed in York. And that's how all such "prophecy" works. People make things to happen, just as it says in the gospels even, "So that this may be fulfilled…," and people take snippets of whatever to make them fit.
My face must have been contorted in confusion and disgust. I thought, "How do you get that from this???" I slammed the book closed, closed the bible, and leaned back in my chair with a sigh, staring across the yard into nothing. I'd had quite a bit of that for one day. Some day, I thought, I'd like to finally look up all the supposed prophecies to compare them all…
Before fast-forwarding a few weeks, I'd like to go back up in the past a bit. My Love, who, for those wondering, had been heavily researching on his own, especially video debates (so that he can hear different sides for things) for the last year. Over a decade ago, when we were active in the Southern Baptist churches, he kept telling me there was more to just believing in Jesus to be saved. I kept telling him it was that simple, we weren't saved by works (even though I personally had prayed the so-called "sinner's prayer" numerous times throughout my childhood, because it just didn't seem to work any magic for me). He kept saying there had to be more to it. It was during his persistence of that period when we both started getting serious about reading the bible. I did so at home, while he did so in hotel rooms, as he worked out of state during the week. Separately reading, we both came simultaneously to the same conclusions, that what we were reading was vastly different than what we'd been taught in the Protestant churches. Then, long story short, we arrived at what I've lived out (and somewhat off and on so for my husband) for the last decade, rejecting the pagan Christianity doctrines of the trinity, ever-burning hell, heaven upon death, Christmas, Easter, Sunday, etc. Now we both look back and wonder why we foolishly thought that since people didn't follow the book exactly, that still made the book the word of God. But we both agree that it was still a stepping stone in our life's journey of learning, and I'm just so thankful I'm still young and have mostly young children. I haven't invested my entire life in a lie as some have. I always try to look on the positive side of things, so I am mostly feeling thankful, rather than feeling enraged at myself.
Now back to recently, fast-forwarding a few weeks from my little Jesus-Immanuel examination. It was our rest day, and my Love texted me a link to an essay written by Thomas Paine (one of America's "Founding Fathers") on the prophecies of Jesus Christ (which I know now is actually part 3 of his Age of Reason).
So outside I went, with him following to sit beside me to read his own thing, while our beloved children jumped in a water sprinkler that our eleven-year old son constructed himself.
Thomas Paine had gone through all the places in the gospels where there were claimed fulfilled prophecies that were to be fulfilled during Jesus' life, and he went back to where the supposed prophecies were, and he crushed each and every one in succession (I've since flipped through them all on my own, too), beginning with the one I'd seen on my own just weeks ago to be a farce.
I immediately fell in love with Paine's writing style and thought process, which reminded me of my own. I kept laughing aloud, and my Love said he was surprised to hear me laughing, that he hadn't expected that response (though he had hoped that that would be the thing that opened my eyes). Ah, but what he did not know was that had been exactly what I had been wanting to see myself, and here someone else had done this already, and it just so happened that my Love had sent it to me.
It was a job well done, with perfectly appropriate comments throughout, proper for exposing such deception and expressing anger at such folly (and since then, I've started going through other books of the "new testament" and writing down how insane and dishonest other claims of fulfilled prophecy are).
I've since read a lot more of Thomas Paine's writings and other things written by a Deist point-of-view, which fits me so well, as nature has always spoken the loudest to me, over the bible or anything else. It is the natural religion, opposed to "revealed religion," all coming from various men that we must trust rather than our Creator (if there is one) directly.
I've read many things over the years, including New Age and Greek myths in my teens, the book of Jasher (mentioned twice as a reference in the bible), some of Enoch, and many others. Over the past two years I've read the Holy Vedas, the Buddhist Dhammapada, as well as others. I still am reading a volume of collected "Buddhist Scriptures" (which I am mostly disliking quite a bit, though I liked the Dhammapada).
It was through my reading of the Muslim Qur'an, the Hindu Vedas, and the Buddhist Dhammapada over the past two years that I came to realize that men twist everything and add to everything. The vast majority of content in those books was all very good and agreeable with the good parts of the bible. The Qur'an claims it confirms Torah and gospels, though it doesn't fully, so it begs the question why Muslims aren't checking out the Torah and gospels to see what they say. It also teaches some of the same pagan Christianity beliefs, like an ever-burning hell, except it at least explains how it's possible, namely that the wicked will constantly receive new skins as they burn off.
I love the Vedas. There's hardly anything in there that warrants flagging. It's full of wonderful wisdom and sensible teaching and mostly refers to one Creator. I realize there are other Hindu books that I haven't yet read in full, but there was nothing, really, in the Vedas that looked like the Hinduism religion. The same can be said of the Qur'an and Islam. Men add ideas to people's books and make religions. Judaism was created with more than the bible's old testament. Christianity was created with more than just the bible.
Now when I had revealed all this to my Love months ago, it had apparently sealed the deal for him (unbeknownst to me until much more recently). He recently confided in me that the strength with which I argued things had kept him just unsure enough to keep fighting against his reasoning, which eventually prevailed with the accumulation of information and evidence.
I'd read about an alternative creation story eight years or so ago, which still contained Adam and Eve. Then my Love and I listened to an audio version of the Epic of Gilgamesh three or four years ago. Until a few weeks ago those were the only alternative or parallel creation and/or flood accounts I'd explored. This was before the prophecy incident. One of the biggest things my Love has talked about the past year is the biblical flood story, and so I just decided to read other accounts several weeks ago. I guess I thought maybe by doing so I was going to give more credence to the bible story, but the opposite happened, in fact, as I meditated on it all for the days and weeks following my reading of them. For the last few years I have believed in the not-so-popular belief that the flood was regional, because I am a reasoning, logical, scientific person, and scientifically the regional flood is the only one that even had a chance of passing the possibility test. After reading the flood accounts, though, and reading the biblical text over and over again, there's no denying that it's meant to be believed as a planet-wide flood that covered all the mountains, which most certainly did not take place.
Among the many flood accounts that have survived there are a few parallel to the bible. They are obviously about the same main character, because the names are all similar or the same to Noah. He built a boat, various birds are let loose, and the boat lands on a mountain. But in the Near East versions the boat lands there, in the Australian version, the boat lands on a mountain in Australia, and in the Hawaii version the boat lands in Hawaii. Birds differ a bit, and the sacrifices differ. In Hawaii, for example, "Nua" offered coconuts and such.
There were also a few flood accounts that talked more of a log or bottle or barrel-type vessel that kids were sealed up in, with a sooty plug in a hole. The one who unplugged it became black from the soot, and so he became the father of the black peoples (yeah, go figure). Remind you of an alternative story in the bible about Noah's son Ham? It at least didn't involve soot, but…
I soon thereafter read more creation accounts. There had been a flood story that interlaced a creation account, because it was clearly an alternative to the two trees story. It didn't involve trees but rather a fish that wasn't supposed to be eaten.
As I said already, I'd read all those things before the prophecies incident, and I reasoned initially that the numerous tales gave more credit, perhaps, to the bible.
But then even more recently I let my children watch a movie called Tangled (Disney). It's based on the Rapunzel tale. A wicked woman stole a princess baby, because the child had magic hair that would glow when she sang. It kept the wicked woman young and supposedly beautiful, because the hair contained healing properties. The catch, though, was that if her long golden hair was cut, it would turn brown and lose its power.
Hmmm…that reminded me of the Samson and Delilah story and so inspired me to see whether there were other parallel stories.
I can't say I was really surprised to find that there were. Hercules/Apollo apparently would lose his power if his hair was cut, and he also killed a lion with his hands (or with a club and finished it with his hands, depending on which version) and ate honey from it. It predates Samson by at least several decades to a century. I looked up the dates for both.
So then I started searching other fanciful tales from bible lore, and sure enough, all of them are found in other nations' mythology, predating the biblical accounts, some by many centuries.
Cain and Abel, Jonah and the fish, Samson and Delilah, talking animals, killing a giant…it all can be found predating when the bible events supposedly took place. The Jews copied things from from other cultures and wrote out a fancy-sounding history for themselves.
None of the bible (saving for Job, perhaps, which is likely the story of a "gentile") was even written until the time of Israelite and Judahite monarchies, and a great deal wasn't made up and written until the Babylonian captivity of the Jews. Initially I was skeptical of this when my Love and I watched a bible archaeology documentary. Israel Finkelstein is a Jew himself, and he's one of the ones who worked on the project. I think the documentary is The Bible Unearthed. The men were honestly trying to see whether the bible was historically accurate. They explored both archaeological and historical evidence. Both types of evidence testified against the bible. When I watched, though, I wasn't very convinced about their claim that Deueteronomy wasn't written until the reign of Josiah and that most things weren't written until during the Jews' Babylonian captivity. I didn't see how they were coming up with that. Either it wasn't detailed enough to satisfy me, or I missed something.
A short time later, all this still before being introduced to Thomas Paine's shattering of the Messianic prophecies, I read that the two creation accounts in the opening chapters of Genesis were written by two different authors and at two different times (the latter of the the two during the Babylonian captivity but which appears first in Genesis). Well, that certainly explains why there are contradictions in the two accounts.
I guess I still wasn't fully convinced. However, when I more recently read Paine's Age of Reason (it's addressed in part 2), he used only the bible to prove the books weren't written until the captivity, or at the very least, until after there were ruling monarchies in Judah. He pointed at numerous proofs in the bible itself. I could no longer ignore the facts at that point. Outside historical evidence, archaeological evidence, and the bible's own revelations within all prove, without a doubt, that the so-called "books of Moses" weren't written until several hundred years after Moses supposedly lived.
Then there are prophecies that were made and recorded to have failed, and a busting-at-the-seams plethora of contradictions throughout both the "old testament" and "new testament."
Perhaps most importantly there are the numerous evidences that the Israelite tribal god Yahweh is evil when we use our God-given reason and built-in morality, but those of us brought up to believe in the bible push our reason away and instead justify (or ignore as some people do) it all for Yahweh/Jehovah.
Still, there were two things that I still wanted to check into, namely the biblical feasts/holidays and the validity of the book of Revelation.
I didn't look into the weekly sabbath, because during my recent search into the origin of the 7-day week—an unrelated search—I found information on the Babylonian lunar sabbath, of which there are four a month, and that also explained to me why there are some Christians who teach the lunar sabbath doctrine (which someone asked me about a few years ago, and I'd said the sabbath was a weekly ordinance, not an ordinance related to the lunar cycle).
Passover, I figured was easy, because it deals with firstborn human sacrifice and/or animal sacrifice. I researched it, anyway, and found evidence that such a practice by the polytheistic cultures (Canaanite and Amorite) before the supposed (but likely made-up, at least the way it is written in the bible) biblical exodus from Egypt. The Zukru festival was very much like Passover and Unleavened Bread. Instead of brushing a doorpost with blood to protect the inside inhabitants, the lamb sacrifices were done outside, and blood was brushed on everyone's foreheads. Two kinds of bread were made to eat by the people and the gods, barley bread and mashed bread, and they ate them with wine.
Rosh Hashanah (Trumpets) is rooted in the Babylonian Akitu harvest festival, which like the Jews' holiday, is also a new year's celebration, as the Babylonians also had their year divided into two parts with two new years.
Day of Atonement/Yom Kippur has its origins in the Babylonian and Assyrian Kuppuru atoning ceremony.
The Feast of Booths or Feast of Ingathering (Sukkot) came from the Canaanites' autumn harvest festival, during which they'd stay in temporary shelters in the fields until they harvested their crops.
The final editors of the bible, the priests, while in Babylon, added in the new themes they wanted these feasts to apply to, like staying in booths to remember the wilderness exodus, for example. It's no different than what the Roman Catholic Church has done with other pagan holidays and the traditions and symbols that go along with them, applying them to Jesus (like saying Christmas is his birthday, that Easter celebrates the resurrection and that the eggs symbolize new life in him, etc.).
El was a Canaanite god, his consort being Asherah, their children including Baal and Anat (Astarte/Ashtoreth). El was the head of a pantheon of gods and was a creator god with a loving nature. Yahweh was a god of war and storms and such. P's manuscripts (the ones written by the priests in Babylon) and J's manuscripts ("Jah," for Yahweh, which refers to another author who only wrote about Yahweh) contradict each other so that it's unclear whether Abraham knew El as Yahweh, too, or not, as it is later said to Moses that his fathers did not know him as Yahweh but only El. Either way, the gods are blended by the time of the final editing of the books.
It may be that the book of Revelation was written with ideas borrowed from the Sibylline books (not to be confused with the Sibylline chronicles) which were written BCE by an oracle. Other books have borrowed from these, too. We cannot know for sure, because there are no known copies of the Sibylline books now in existence. The Kalki Purana, which wasn't written until probably the third or fourth century CE, may have been written after Revelation (if Revelation was indeed written in the first century) but probably borrowed from the Sibylline books, since there is evidence so many prophets from various cultures borrowed from those books. In the Kalki Purana a future avatar of Vishnu, known as Kalki, is prophesied to come on a white horse, flashing his scimitar and to conquer the wicked, before setting up the peaceful paradise Shambala.
You know, I've walked around for a few years now, feeling guilt about a couple different things I wrote about in my Ten Commandments book, because as a moral person, I felt they were wrong, but I stayed true to the bible teaching and defended Yahweh, justifying for this non-existent war god his horribly wicked commands.
I also have planned on writing another book, which has been in the works for a few years now, and one of the topics was going to be about the technology of God, man, and animals. I was going to systematically show how modern-day scientific knowledge and technology proves how all those far-out stories in the bible can be true and scientifically explained. Now I know that all those stories originated with older cultures, and the Jews just copied and then made themselves out to be better than everyone else, a special race. I will still write a book, and a lot of the information that I've obtained from sources over the last few years, as well as my exhaustive notes, will still be used. It was not all for naught. I just certainly will not be praising the bible as the "word of God."
There's so much more I'd love to write about and will, in time, but this will suffice for now.
I'm free from the lies. I no longer have to defend an evil god that doesn't even exist. I can trust my reason and stop defending the bible as the word of God when it doesn't deserve it and is a disgrace to the real God, if there is one. I can all the more easily reject any "revealed religion" that comes from men. If it's not revealed to me, I shouldn't have to believe it, because to do so isn't trusting God, but rather the man/men who claimed it was revealed to him/them.
I still haven't come down completely from the outrage that so many, even the UCG that I thought was so mild, cling to Herbert Armstrong. I just never knew it, because I stayed away from the churches until toward the end, and when I did go, my own beliefs clashed with the beliefs the people collectively held.
But it just goes to show that when we're guilty of not doing our research, we enslave ourselves to men. That's what those people choose to do when they honor that man (which is unbelievable to those of us who have done our research on him). But I have been guilty of following the bible, which is following many lying men and men of wicked imaginations. I now renounce it, and I encourage you to do your own research and see what conclusions you draw.
Saturday, November 1, 2014
Truth-Searching
I'm starting this new blog to record my newfound truths and share ones I already know. One of my most recently-discovered truths was that the bible is in fact not the word of God, and furthermore there is likely no god, at least not one that cares, though perhaps a pantheistic sense of "god." Before now I blogged about my growing life knowledge on a blog entitled Growing in Grace and Knowledge. Though I'm still very much a spiritually- (i.e., psychologically-) minded person, I'm not religious. I think I was always more spiritual than religious, though. I always held independent ideas and opinions and refused to agree with all of a particular set of religious dogma constructed by another person. It was only a matter of time before I came to the knowledge I now possess concerning the bible.
Although I plan to talk about a wide range of topics, my journey from Christian to atheist is how I want to start, and it will continually be a popular topic. I started on my journey from childhood, for having been brought up in Protestant churches, I deeply questioned several things. The biggest questions as a child were:
1. How did God get here? Where did he come from?
2. I keep praying to be saved, but how come I don't feel anything special afterward?
3. People who don't believe in Jesus and become Christians are going to burn forever? Forever? I don't even like to be burned for a second. Why would God want to do this to anyone? No one has even asked to be born. Besides, how is a person supposed to burn forever when bodies burn up? This seems so horrible, I just don't understand.
4. Hmmm...the earth is billions of years old, and dinosaurs went extinct millions of years ago before people came along? Does this contradict the bible?
5. How does the trinity make sense? If Jesus prayed to his father who is God in heaven, and he's on the earth, they're two people. And how is the Spirit a third person when we are supposed to all get the Spirit and also have our own spirits which are not separate persons?
Then when I was fifteen and listening to an Easter sermon about people rising from their graves at Christ's return, another big question popped into my head and stayed:
6. How is it that we can go to heaven when we die, but then we're going to resurrect to life from the graves at Christ's return? What, we go to heaven and then die again to join our old bodies, and then what, get new spiritual bodies over again? How does this make sense?
There were other questions during those parts of my life, I'm sure, but the ones above were the biggest ones. I laid on my bed in daytime trying to wrap my mind around how God existed, where he came from but then also not being able to imagine pitch-black-nothing with no existence of anyone living, so I always ended those sessions with the thought that I guess it makes more sense that there was always something rather than nothing. I laid awake for hours at night as a young child from around the ages of six to the age of eight, wondering how come my prayers for being saved didn't seem to make me feel any different, and in my late teens, after I'd married, I laid awake in bed puzzling over the trinity and how it made no sense at all.
I married at seventeen, right after high school graduation, and at eighteen I started researching topics such as the pagan origins of Halloween and Christmas. We gave out candy with scripture verses for Halloween that year, but the next year my husband and I did not keep Halloween at all, and we cut out Christmas trees and didn't want to use Santa or Easter eggs in the holidays when we had our future children. Around my 21st birthday I started seriously reading the bible. In the book of Matthew I noticed that Jesus said he had not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, which is the opposite of what was taught in the churches. I also noticed that the rapture doctrine was not in line with what the bible books taught. It rather taught that tribulation would come, and then afterward the Christ/Messiah would come back. There was no way in any of the books that you could honestly formulate a secret rapture doctrine. I felt rather embarrassed and foolish inside, thinking back to an incident in conversation with someone when she was talking about how bad things in the world were getting, and I said those of us raptured wouldn't have to worry about the worst of it.
I was becoming very suspicious, and so I used the Internet to see whether others had come to the same conclusions. I spent a lot of time for a few months reading and highlighting my bible and reading on the Internet. Our firstborn was an infant at that time, and when he was sleeping or when he and I would go outside where he could play in the grass, I'd study.
I read the book Too Long in the Sun by Richard Rives and learned how the Church of Rome had adopted pagan customs and holidays and gave them new Christian names. I read a lot of different things during those months and entered into a state of serious shock, feeling very betrayed by all those whom I'd trusted. How could everyone be so deceived? Nearly every popular Christian doctrine was not biblical. They'd all come from the pagans. There was no trinity, no ever-burning hell, no going to heaven upon death, no rapture. Saturday was the Sabbath, not Sunday. Jesus wasn't born on Christmas, but rather that day was the birth date of the sun god in pagan religions. Easter was the resurrection day of the sun god.
This information that I'd come upon delayed my escape from Christian religion by a decade.
Since it seemed the new testament prophecies foretold of a great deception, a departure from the truth, and a fornicating of truth with pagan religions, I was deeply convinced that there were "true Christians" who were the bride or Revelation 12 who kept the commandments and that there were "fornicating Christians" who were the whore of Revelation 17 and 18. I thought I was one of the few in this age who were "called and chosen" to be among the firstfruits to be resurrected when Christ returned and would help him reign in the Kingdom of God on this earth, at which time the truth would spread by Israel setting an example and being blessed, and eventually during the 1,000-year period the earth would become a paradise where even the animals didn't kill one another, but all would eat plants. Then afterwards everyone else would be resurrected and shown the truth (except those who knew it and had rejected it, who would be thrown into the lake of fire to be burned up to die the second death) and live out a life of judgement and either also be transformed to possess a spiritual body and be one of God's sons or die in the lake of fire. Then the earth would be burned up, and the new earth would come down from heaven with the Father God.
Besides around a three year period from about the ages of nineteen to twenty-two, I have believed in an old earth, and after reading a convincing study on the flood and Noah's ark, until now I had believed for six years or longer in a regional, rather than worldwide, flood.
Whenever I heard atheists speak or debate with Christians, I found myself to agree more with them than with the Christians they were debating. I didn't care for mainstream (Catholic and Protestant) Christianity at all. I hated their extreme right-wing beliefs and actions just as much, if not more, than extreme left-wing beliefs. But I thought the atheists were simply missing some vital pieces of information, and if they just knew about those things, they'd not be atheists. I liked them much better, in general. They tended to be more intelligent and more righteous-acting, in all honesty. I noticed most of the Christians would become hateful and lose their tempers.
We only watched Fox News regularly for about a year. We didn't like Bill O'Reilly's rude yelling and cutting off people, and we thought Sean Hannity was obnoxious. I was appalled when I heard the latter state his opinions that torture should be used in interrogations. I didn't think there was anything righteous about that. I watched Bill Maher's Religilous nearly six years ago and enjoyed it for the most part. I simply felt that Bill was missing those important pieces of evidence. Every time people would bring up the fact that pagan religions had virgin-born god sons that were born on December 25 and had trinities, etc., I found myself thinking, "If only they knew the bible didn't teach those things, but the Catholic Church has deceived everyone by adopting those customs and applying them to Jesus..."
I was always willing to admit that there was a possibility I was not right, if only I was shown evidence, but I would live according to what evidence I had. My husband turned his back on Christian religion years ago and claimed to be agnostic, after for awhile having walked along with me in the "Truth." After I had pressed him hard to search the evidence, over two years ago he absorbed himself in Christian-atheist debates and evolution-creation debates and scoured articles. Two different times, a year apart, he claimed to have turned back to Christ. The first time was very short-lived and didn't seem serious. The second time he actually started daily reading the bible with me, but we soon ran into problems. He honestly didn't believe any of it was true, and he struggled with the dishonesty and pretending that he was following that religion. We had had numerous stimulating discussions over the years about our differing beliefs.
We always got along very well despite the differences, and I enjoyed the intellectual conversations. But then after my husband's "last return" and subsequent backing back away, he aggressively bombed me with debates. I was fine with it so long as it was a little bit here and there, but there were some days where he didn't have jobs to go do and so was home, that he'd debate me literally nearly all day, for days at a time, and I would feel overwhelmed. I became angry, because I needed to get on with my day and spend a great deal of it doing what I needed or wanted. He'd always back off, but then in time he'd come back on me again strongly.
Now, it's important to say at this point in writing that I still had big questions throughout all these adult years (I'm newly 32 now), and most such questions distressed me in spirit quite greatly.
Thanks to my husband, I was quickly adding more questions to the question bank that sat somewhere in my mind. He has always been good to say things to make me think, but he does not have strong debating skills, though I do. I had been doing quite well debating him, but over time there were increasingly more occasions where I'd have to honestly say, "I don't know."
I'll be soon starting to write my next book, which will detail completely about how I journeyed through Christianity and left. Here I'll just say that things eventually added up to such a degree that I was deeply bothered and started digging more on my own. After two months of researching, reading, and meditating on things, I came out publicly on my blog to announce that I no longer believed the bible was the word of God, but I was the same person (and am). To find out what happened, stay tuned for my next post, "My Coming Out."
Until then, feel free to read my coming-out post on Growing in Grace and Knowledge.
Although I plan to talk about a wide range of topics, my journey from Christian to atheist is how I want to start, and it will continually be a popular topic. I started on my journey from childhood, for having been brought up in Protestant churches, I deeply questioned several things. The biggest questions as a child were:
1. How did God get here? Where did he come from?
2. I keep praying to be saved, but how come I don't feel anything special afterward?
3. People who don't believe in Jesus and become Christians are going to burn forever? Forever? I don't even like to be burned for a second. Why would God want to do this to anyone? No one has even asked to be born. Besides, how is a person supposed to burn forever when bodies burn up? This seems so horrible, I just don't understand.
4. Hmmm...the earth is billions of years old, and dinosaurs went extinct millions of years ago before people came along? Does this contradict the bible?
5. How does the trinity make sense? If Jesus prayed to his father who is God in heaven, and he's on the earth, they're two people. And how is the Spirit a third person when we are supposed to all get the Spirit and also have our own spirits which are not separate persons?
Then when I was fifteen and listening to an Easter sermon about people rising from their graves at Christ's return, another big question popped into my head and stayed:
6. How is it that we can go to heaven when we die, but then we're going to resurrect to life from the graves at Christ's return? What, we go to heaven and then die again to join our old bodies, and then what, get new spiritual bodies over again? How does this make sense?
There were other questions during those parts of my life, I'm sure, but the ones above were the biggest ones. I laid on my bed in daytime trying to wrap my mind around how God existed, where he came from but then also not being able to imagine pitch-black-nothing with no existence of anyone living, so I always ended those sessions with the thought that I guess it makes more sense that there was always something rather than nothing. I laid awake for hours at night as a young child from around the ages of six to the age of eight, wondering how come my prayers for being saved didn't seem to make me feel any different, and in my late teens, after I'd married, I laid awake in bed puzzling over the trinity and how it made no sense at all.
I married at seventeen, right after high school graduation, and at eighteen I started researching topics such as the pagan origins of Halloween and Christmas. We gave out candy with scripture verses for Halloween that year, but the next year my husband and I did not keep Halloween at all, and we cut out Christmas trees and didn't want to use Santa or Easter eggs in the holidays when we had our future children. Around my 21st birthday I started seriously reading the bible. In the book of Matthew I noticed that Jesus said he had not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, which is the opposite of what was taught in the churches. I also noticed that the rapture doctrine was not in line with what the bible books taught. It rather taught that tribulation would come, and then afterward the Christ/Messiah would come back. There was no way in any of the books that you could honestly formulate a secret rapture doctrine. I felt rather embarrassed and foolish inside, thinking back to an incident in conversation with someone when she was talking about how bad things in the world were getting, and I said those of us raptured wouldn't have to worry about the worst of it.
I was becoming very suspicious, and so I used the Internet to see whether others had come to the same conclusions. I spent a lot of time for a few months reading and highlighting my bible and reading on the Internet. Our firstborn was an infant at that time, and when he was sleeping or when he and I would go outside where he could play in the grass, I'd study.
I read the book Too Long in the Sun by Richard Rives and learned how the Church of Rome had adopted pagan customs and holidays and gave them new Christian names. I read a lot of different things during those months and entered into a state of serious shock, feeling very betrayed by all those whom I'd trusted. How could everyone be so deceived? Nearly every popular Christian doctrine was not biblical. They'd all come from the pagans. There was no trinity, no ever-burning hell, no going to heaven upon death, no rapture. Saturday was the Sabbath, not Sunday. Jesus wasn't born on Christmas, but rather that day was the birth date of the sun god in pagan religions. Easter was the resurrection day of the sun god.
This information that I'd come upon delayed my escape from Christian religion by a decade.
Since it seemed the new testament prophecies foretold of a great deception, a departure from the truth, and a fornicating of truth with pagan religions, I was deeply convinced that there were "true Christians" who were the bride or Revelation 12 who kept the commandments and that there were "fornicating Christians" who were the whore of Revelation 17 and 18. I thought I was one of the few in this age who were "called and chosen" to be among the firstfruits to be resurrected when Christ returned and would help him reign in the Kingdom of God on this earth, at which time the truth would spread by Israel setting an example and being blessed, and eventually during the 1,000-year period the earth would become a paradise where even the animals didn't kill one another, but all would eat plants. Then afterwards everyone else would be resurrected and shown the truth (except those who knew it and had rejected it, who would be thrown into the lake of fire to be burned up to die the second death) and live out a life of judgement and either also be transformed to possess a spiritual body and be one of God's sons or die in the lake of fire. Then the earth would be burned up, and the new earth would come down from heaven with the Father God.
Besides around a three year period from about the ages of nineteen to twenty-two, I have believed in an old earth, and after reading a convincing study on the flood and Noah's ark, until now I had believed for six years or longer in a regional, rather than worldwide, flood.
Whenever I heard atheists speak or debate with Christians, I found myself to agree more with them than with the Christians they were debating. I didn't care for mainstream (Catholic and Protestant) Christianity at all. I hated their extreme right-wing beliefs and actions just as much, if not more, than extreme left-wing beliefs. But I thought the atheists were simply missing some vital pieces of information, and if they just knew about those things, they'd not be atheists. I liked them much better, in general. They tended to be more intelligent and more righteous-acting, in all honesty. I noticed most of the Christians would become hateful and lose their tempers.
We only watched Fox News regularly for about a year. We didn't like Bill O'Reilly's rude yelling and cutting off people, and we thought Sean Hannity was obnoxious. I was appalled when I heard the latter state his opinions that torture should be used in interrogations. I didn't think there was anything righteous about that. I watched Bill Maher's Religilous nearly six years ago and enjoyed it for the most part. I simply felt that Bill was missing those important pieces of evidence. Every time people would bring up the fact that pagan religions had virgin-born god sons that were born on December 25 and had trinities, etc., I found myself thinking, "If only they knew the bible didn't teach those things, but the Catholic Church has deceived everyone by adopting those customs and applying them to Jesus..."
I was always willing to admit that there was a possibility I was not right, if only I was shown evidence, but I would live according to what evidence I had. My husband turned his back on Christian religion years ago and claimed to be agnostic, after for awhile having walked along with me in the "Truth." After I had pressed him hard to search the evidence, over two years ago he absorbed himself in Christian-atheist debates and evolution-creation debates and scoured articles. Two different times, a year apart, he claimed to have turned back to Christ. The first time was very short-lived and didn't seem serious. The second time he actually started daily reading the bible with me, but we soon ran into problems. He honestly didn't believe any of it was true, and he struggled with the dishonesty and pretending that he was following that religion. We had had numerous stimulating discussions over the years about our differing beliefs.
We always got along very well despite the differences, and I enjoyed the intellectual conversations. But then after my husband's "last return" and subsequent backing back away, he aggressively bombed me with debates. I was fine with it so long as it was a little bit here and there, but there were some days where he didn't have jobs to go do and so was home, that he'd debate me literally nearly all day, for days at a time, and I would feel overwhelmed. I became angry, because I needed to get on with my day and spend a great deal of it doing what I needed or wanted. He'd always back off, but then in time he'd come back on me again strongly.
Now, it's important to say at this point in writing that I still had big questions throughout all these adult years (I'm newly 32 now), and most such questions distressed me in spirit quite greatly.
Thanks to my husband, I was quickly adding more questions to the question bank that sat somewhere in my mind. He has always been good to say things to make me think, but he does not have strong debating skills, though I do. I had been doing quite well debating him, but over time there were increasingly more occasions where I'd have to honestly say, "I don't know."
I'll be soon starting to write my next book, which will detail completely about how I journeyed through Christianity and left. Here I'll just say that things eventually added up to such a degree that I was deeply bothered and started digging more on my own. After two months of researching, reading, and meditating on things, I came out publicly on my blog to announce that I no longer believed the bible was the word of God, but I was the same person (and am). To find out what happened, stay tuned for my next post, "My Coming Out."
Until then, feel free to read my coming-out post on Growing in Grace and Knowledge.
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